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Hej!

Jeg har via nogle facebook sider fundet frem til følgende side:
http://www.truthcontest.com

Den for tiden førende artikel minder meget om det vi læser i Livets bog (jeg har kun skimmet den), men der mangler nogle grundlæggende principper fra Martinus som jo giver et bredere syn på livet.

Som de skriver:
This truth contest is not a competition with a winner. It is simply the best way to find, check, and spread the truth. The most clear, complete, and accurate explanation of the truth of life will be on top followed by the next best. Everyone wins, because we will have the best entries together. It does not matter who writes the entries. What is said is all that matters.

Er der nogen der har mod på at medvirke her?
 spurgt 17 Jan, 2015 af patric
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Vi fik denne her mail fra truthcontest, hvor de også mener at der er nogle ligheder mellem truthcontest og Martinus. Det er vel ikke så underligt at en sandhed kigger frem i forskellige sammenhænge.

Her er mailen:
Hey, i saw you were interested in Martinus Thomsen, so am i. I find it very interesting that the top entry, "The Present" on www.truthcontest.com is very similiar to Martinus' work. Things like immortality and the balancing opposites are very central in the book, just like in Martinus' view of life.

"The Present" is only about 100 pages long, and i believe the truth needs to be simplified as much as possible, so that you do not lose track of the big picture of life, and there are also new things that has been revealed that could not be known until now. If you read the top entry, i would like to hear what you think of it.
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Hej, her er en første version, jeg tager meget gerne feedback på dette, også forslag på store forandringer, indtil videre har jeg slettet en masse og rykket rundt på sætningerne, så det er i høj grad "work in progress".

Martinus cosmology comprises works of thousands of pages that go under the title "The Third Testament", with the main compendium "The Book Of Life". The first book of this compendium starts out with the following paragraph:

1. Every living being that comes into the world, regardless of whether it belongs to the community of beings we call "terrestrial mankind" or whether it belongs to those forms of life which manifest themselves through what we are to recognize as "animals", "plants" and "minerals", is, without exception, subject to the experience of life.

Now, this might not seem like anything extraordinary on the first glance, but simple as it stands, it enlightens us in a world view that is very different from the modern consensus of natural science (which considers animals and plants as the only living beings in our known universe).

In this world view, life is the eternal basis of the entire cosmos. Within everything, it constitutes reality as a cascaded living world. Now, that means, completely everything in this world - without exception - is subject to the experience of life. Life did not arise at a certain point within a lifeless existence, life is what makes existence.

Now, as we set the smallest pieces of reality to be manifestation of life, everything beyond that must be combinations of life. These combinations will thus constitute life in a higher form. As much as we can conclude to be of a higher life form, we must also acknowledge to be part of an even higher life form, even though we have only yet understood the earth as "life supply". Within this reality, nothing lives without being part of a greater form of life, and nothing lives without being a collection smaller forms of life. The nature of the eternal cascaded structure lets us understand that the highest life form is not “a being” but an "all-being”, whereas every single part experiences life through the same “I", which binds all conscious living beings to manifest this reality.

Simply put, life is a collection of mental energies. With ourselves as combinations of life forms through mental energies, it is close at hand to understand death as a renewal and improved recreation of these combinations rather than the end of our very selves. Without opposite, life has continued within all of us through an eternal number of recreations, from smaller and simpler life forms, within simpler beings and through more subtle stages - to the complex macro-beings that we are today.

Martinus explains how life evolves in "spirals of evolution" whereas each spiral has six levels based on the seven mental energies. Macro-beings, that form life through smaller living beings, attract their entire organism in form of smaller living beings from lower spirals within the same level of the spiral. We as humans have just crossed the culmination of the second level within our spiral and still belong to the animal kingdom. This level is dominated by the mental energy of desire towards the materialistic self, with the culmination of a total individual self-sensation, separated from all other beings. Whereas this concentration towards the self is the driving factor for survival and dominance within the primitive stages of the animal world, it turns to a disruptive and destructive force when the need is combined with the fourth mental energy, intelligence. It is very evident, that the single focus on pleasing ones self-interest with increasing wit and technology has negative effects on the development of the human species and the life on this planet. Through the experiences we make in our lives, we learn to control our actions towards more compassionate levels, where we recreate and evolve into living-beings that can uphold higher mental stages and with that we are leaving the animal kingdom with its desires and are on our way to enter the kingdom of The Real Mankind, where unconditional and uniform love represents the logic of life.
 kommenteret 24 Feb, 2015 af patric
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Jeg prøver at få det læst en af dagene. Bliver nok først i weekenden.
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Hej Patric,

Rigtig godt at du har brugt noget tid på at få forfattet en tekst om Martinus Verdensbillede. Respect for det. Jeg har nogle kommentarer, som jeg håber at du kan bruge.

- Det er svært at finde ud af hvornår citatet fra LB1 slutter (hvornår begynder du selv at skrive igen).

- "we set the smallest pieces of reality to be manifestation of life". Jeg synes ikke at det er sådan Martinus skriver om liv. Det er ikke noget der er en mindste del. Tværtimod, så fortsætter det skabte, i følge Martinus, ned i mindre og mindre detaljer. Jeg vil foreslå at bruge liv som det faste punkt (X1) i stedet eller noget i den retning.

- "Martinus explains how life evolves in "spirals of evolution" whereas each spiral has six levels based on the seven mental energies.". Forvirrende med 6 mentale riger og syv energier. Jeg synes at det er ok at skrive seks riger som primært er baseret på hver sin energi.

Forslag: Martinus giver en beskrivelse af hvad meningen med livet er (at opleve det og være til). Kunne man evt. bruge det? Teksten er meget beskrivende omkring energier, spiraler etc., men kan i mine øjne godt bruge en form for konklusion. Du har lidt med i form af at hele er et oplevende jeg. Jeg tror at det vil løfte tekste, hvis der er flere af den slags konklusioner.

Fortsæt det gode arbejde!
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tak! du har ret i det du skriver mht til de mindste dele, det må jeg lige slette. jeg vil prøve at ændre teksten i retningen med X1 X2 og X3 uden at direkte bruge disse betegnelser. jeg må ryste lidt i posen for at beholde den røde tråd, men det er meget sundt for teksten. udfordringen er jo at det ikke skal blive for fjernt for nogen der ikke har kendskab til martinus verdensbillede.

Jeg havde forresten en tanke omkring de 6(7) former af mentale energier. Tror du man kan tale om energiniveauer mellem plante, dyre og menneskestadiet? det ville jo give mening at følelsesenergien er af en højere energiniveau end tyngdeenergien, men jeg kan ikke huske at martinus har udtrykt det på denne måde?

der mangler jo referencer hele vejen igennem indtil videre, så jeg kommer nok til enten at klippe dele fra LB eller i hvert fald prøve at formulere det på samme måde som martinus. har en ny version om et par uger.

PS. jeg får ikke mails fra respondoj hvis der kommer opdateringer længere.. ved ikke hvis noget er blever ændret? DS.

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Jeg kan godt læse noget igennem, hvis det kan hjælpe. Jeg har ikke mod på at skrive noget selv lige nu. Måske en anden gang.
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Det er allerede til meget hjælp :) Jeg går så småt igang. Har nok et første udkast om et par måneder. Jeg kan sende det per mail, eller er der et sted på forumet jeg kan lægge dokumentet for en åben feedback?
 kommenteret 20 Jan, 2015 af patric
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Start et emne på forum-delen - her: http://www.martinusforum.dk/martinus-forum/start-emne. Så kigger jeg på det.
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Hej igen.

Har arbejdet på en ret omfattende version, for at ligesom pensle ud de få ord jeg tidligere brugte på beskrivelsen af min fortolkning af martinus verdensbilledet.

For at denne tråd på respondoj ikke skal blive for uoverskuelig har jeg skjult en del af de tidligere versioner..

For den der gider kaste sig over teksten, så er det vigtigt at holde styr på optællingen, feks så er 1.3.1 en videre forklaring af 1.3 og 1.3.1.1 er så en dybere forklaring af 1.3.1 osv..

Jeg kommer nok ikke skrive så meget mere på denne tekst, fordi jeg for mig selv er nået til hvad jeg fra min primitive udkigspunkt kan forstå som en "mening med livet" (at leve i kærligheden og elske sin næste gennem sig selv), men jeg samtidig overhovedet ikke er i stand til at følge denne teoretiske forklaring, bare gennem belysningen af sammenhængene alene.

Det giver jo klart mening at der ikke findes en hurtig vej udenom hvor man bare kan læse sig til at elske, men jeg er dog glad at have fået det vigtigste på plads for at kunne bygge et klarere sammenhæng når jeg når dertil. 

For mit vedkommende bliver næste skridt selvoplevelse gennem meditationstræning, og det kommer til at tage tid, mht hvor stivfrosset jeg er i tankernes og materiens verden.  

Her er Revision 19, jeg kan sende en bedre formateret version per mail, bare skriv til mig på patric.thysell@gmail.com:

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1. The Principle of Life

1.1 Our universe comprises a living unit and our existence is the outcome of a living reality. Life constitutes existence, and as foundation of space and time, Life manifests reality as a cascaded living world.

1.1.1 Every belief, religious or scientific, is based on fundamental assumptions. With an assumption, a structure of values and ritualswithin a religion can be built. With an assumption, thousands of scientific books can be written that examines this assumption and uses it - in order to explain more complex matters within this train of thought.

1.1.2 This is an old but yet completely new assumption. It liberates the evolutionary train of thought where it becomes hard to explain the development of life, and it reperfects the religious believers to understand the nature of god and our place within.

1.1.3 The assumption is pretty simple: Life is fundamental - for the universe and everything within it. It did not arise out of a lifeless existence, life is fundamental for the movement of matter. Life has always been, and within everything there will ever be, it constitutes an eternal cycle.

1.1.3.1 Time can be seen as a constant absolute center, where reality is built on the life that is lived, rather than a linear progression - where life "happens" in reality.

1.1.3.2 It is this absolute center that is the experiencing "I" of everything in this universe.

1.2 Everything within this world comprises living beings at different levels, whereas all living beings describe assemblies of simpler living beings.

1.2.1 Now, as life is the basis for all matter, it means that everything within the world we experience must also represent forms of life. This is also the case, life and not matter is fundamental, so everything we build this reality on is an expression of countless numbers of living beings.

1.2.2 We can see this structure of life within life within our own body. The body consists of various organs, that in turn consist out of different cells that in turn consist out of molecules that in turn consist of atoms that in turn consist out of even smaller parts and so forth. Now, all these levels comprise living organsims within our organism, and are referred to as assembly.

1.2.3 In the same way as we consist of an assembly of living organisms, we are part of an assembly of a dimensionally larger living organism, the earth. Until now, we have simply seen the earth with all its life-supplying cycles of oxygen, water, nitrogen, carbon, hydrogen, mercury, phosphorus and sulfur - as something not-living because it doesn't directly react on our actions. In fact of course, the complete opposite situation is the case, the earth is dimensionally more living than we could ever imagine.

1.2.3.1 The earth cannot be imaged round just because our understanding of energy is only in the terms of matter, it must be understood as the energy beyond which it also represents in our manifestation which is way beyond the already physical experience. We are the substances that experience the the light of the eye. dont be blinded.

1.2.3.2 Our organisms live and age in the superior being earth - through the "usage" of the manifested organism - like we use cells to live. Imagine putting all organisms on planet earth together in a living self [eternal body] ##1.3.3.

1.2.3.3 Imagine living in the heart of Earths space and fire, where our relation to energy is beyond either gravital or repelling force. Where Love is a fundamental force.

1.2.3.4 If we follow this hierarchy upwards, The earth is part of the assembly of the solar system, which is the manifested part of the galaxy and so forth.

1.3 Every living being is a correlation of an eternal and absolute reference - "I", a being with an ability of creation, and a time-bound, manifested organism.

1.3.1 This is the fundamental principle of a living being. It is the matter that is manifested by Life, not vice versa. Our universe is held together in this present, through one and the same "I" wich is the absolute reference. This "I" reference lives through our organs, like our brain and eyes, and experiences - through our physical representation - a level of reality. It is the level of these subsequent organs and organisms that decide how much, or which parts of reality that can be experienced.

1.3.1.1 it is the level of reality that is experienced, just as thoughts are experienced through organs, and not "made" through "procceses", the reality is lived via the means of our organs, and not made up of "stuff" from an endless chain reaction of events. Every single part of reality is alive! Everything is living!

1.3.2 In the same way, it is the level of our physical representation, the manifested organism, that decides which parts of reality we can interact within. We tend to think that reality is only what is physical, but as life is the common ground, and not matter - reality is also dimensions above the physical realm. The physical world is just a representation of our current level - where we are right now.

1.3.2.1 this representation and levels of subsequent organs can of course evolve as the organisms are continuously exchanged. ##2

1.3.3 The "I" is linked with the physical organism through a being with ability of creation. Many would refer to this as the living self [eternal body]. It is only through the combination of these three - the manifested organism, the "I", and the "being", or living self [eternal body] - that a living being exists. It is through this principle of life that everything in the complete, living reality exists.

Symbol 16: The basic structure of the living being is such that it has an eternal centre or I that sends out various kinds of movements, which return to this centre. It is eternally enveloped in a mass of cyclical movements. All cyclical movements when completed result in a new cycle. This structure of movement around the I is therefore eternal and is called the eternal body. Since all kinds of energy and movement without exception emanate from the I and, through the cycle, return to this I, the being is the absolute first cause of its fate and is therefore the only source of its fate. Eternal and unshakable justice is thus shown to be an absolute reality.

1.4 The being itself is an immortal collection of principles for life interaction by the means of its assembly of simpler beings.

1.4.1 The being, or living self [eternal body] - is the part that creates the perspective, the subjective experience of life. It is this partliving self [eternal body] that learns from its interactions and evolves through repeated incarnations (manifestations).

1.4.1.1 every manifestation ages through the "usage" within its superior being.

1.4.2 It is the being that describes the assembly setup of simpler living beings, and how this assembly should interact, both internally and externally. Within our physical realm of representation, the assembly setup boils down to a dna code. All our skills, instincts, abilities and personality are part of the life interaction abilities that the being carries with it.

1.4.3 The being does not only have a physical representation, but also other manifested organs which are not yet dominant in our current level of development.
 kommenteret 18 Jul, 2015 af patric
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2. The Unfolding of "I"

2.1 The creation process of the being emerges through the realisation via the eternal "I" within a superior living-being which becomes its "now" in the domain of the superior living-being. This unfolding of the "I" to the "now" introduces the being to the ever-changing present reality.

2.2 In the process of being voven into time, the immortal being creates its organism by compositions of assemblies from already existing living-beings available in the same domain.

2.2.1 We call this: having sex! therefore having sex is an attempt of creation of various living selves [eternal bodies].

2.2.2 The winner of course is the one who makes the spot, which is based on its previous reflexions from its former lives. ## 3.1

2.2.3 Everyone and everything becomes who/what/he should be, continuing from any desired level where the being left the present in its former manifestation

2.3 The representation as living being is manifesed entirely through its own assembly beings which designs all its experience of life within this domain. A living being can only be as much as its assembly composition is able to represent, and it can only experience reality to the level that its subsequent assembly allows.

2.4 The life span of a living being lasts orders of magnitude longer than that of its subsequent living beings. Through this dimensional difference between a living being and its assembly components, it follows that new assembly components are continuously realised as the living being ages.
 kommenteret 18 Jul, 2015 af patric
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3. The Development of the Being

3.1 Every living being is bound to reality through the same absolute reference "I" which carries mental energy into the domain via the living being in form of thoughts or actions. As a natural cycle, all mental energies return to this absolute reference via the living being that enabled these energies to be realised.

3.2 The return of these energies can be both pleasant and unpleasant. It is through the manner of these reflections, that the living being experiences its own self and develops its life-interaction principles. According to this principle, it also follows, that ones current fate and place in reality is completely based on ones own prior actions.

3.3 The assembly of a living being develops by renewing the component beings. As these components in turn represent living beings, it means that this exchange implicitly means death for one living being, and the birth for another.

3.4 When these outer circumstances lead to death of a living being, the "I" in the form of "now" is separated from the manifested organism, which means no new assembly beings are realised in this organism. The being of course prevails until it is again realised by a superior living being.

3.4.1 When the "I" has left an organism, its current assembly beings will live on under the circumstances that reside in this organism until the "I" is separated from their organisms and so forth.
 kommenteret 18 Jul, 2015 af patric
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4. The Meaning of Life

4.1 Every mental energy that manifests itself in reality is the outcome of a desire within a living being. This desire becomes the highest domain law in the subsequent layers of living beings within its organism.

4.2 This highest law unfolds to love for all living beings within the domain of the superior living being. Acting through love thus becomes the highest fulfilment of any living beings existence.

4.2.1 Therefore you shouldn't look for the meaning of life but the meaning of love, in the sense of why, if you wish to find any for us understandable meaning

4.2.2 The levels of life is eternal and it is impossible to understand a complete meaning of life in terms of a reason. It brakes down to a realisation of love for whichever reason you could possibly think.

4.2.3 There is no absolute right or wrong in any action, there are only actions with certain degrees of love.

4.3 The subsequent assembly of a living-being enables a certain level of conscious experience within reality. It is thus an enhanced conscious understanding that opens the living being to grow its organism into realising a more fulfilling life.

4.4 It is through contrasts and opposites that we view the world around us. We must learn to identify with these opposites as being a part of our very selves, to experience reality with love as a fundamental part of our consciousness. It is through this state of mind that we awake in the real human kingdom.
 kommenteret 18 Jul, 2015 af patric
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Hej Patric, kom der noget ud af alt dit fine arbejde? Beklager at jeg aldrig fik svaret.
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Hej Lasse, jeg har kun kommet til at rette nogle detaljer, men jeg holder den nok der. sender lige den seneste verision med mail. Til gengæld starter jeg op med en ny bog sammen med en gammel kollega, som jeg har ret store forventninger til J
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